Post Info TOPIC: A new program of the former TPLF disendents!
Dawit

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A new program of the former TPLF disendents!
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I was reading a "new program" of the so called TPLF dissendent both in amahric and in Tigrigna. I fel very ashamed. Just a statement from the manuscript read as follows "We will fight to estbliash a legal and sustenable sea-port contrat with neighboring countries". They are not still willing to recognize the right of Ethiopia to the red sea. I could not believe I am reading such a statement from the people. I have been thinking that 4 years ismore than enough to rethink on at least their basic mistakes. But even after such a time out of office, they haven't show a slightest change. From their program one can simply conclude they are still the other face of the EPRDF.

Here is my recommandation:"As you have no difference with Meles you better beg Meles to give you a position like your former colleague Abay Tsehaye".

Now I understand I was totally wrong in expecting a positive thing from these people. I was hoping that they will come up with a solution to the burning problems of our country

Betam Yasaznal Sewu Hulu wey wenie alba wey degmo Shaibia hono mekretu

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Belay

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They missed the only chance to get apology from the Ethiopian people from their former crimes in make Ethiopia a landlocked country as they were parts and parcels of Meles Chenaw.
May be we hope we will hear a different from Siye, Bitew and Abate Kisho from their prison cells. If they are to stick to such a "new program" but poisonious enough like that of the Meles" they better die before we hear theirs.

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Berga

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Brother, their problem is only how to come back to the power they have missed hoping for more power by avoiding their friend Meles from his post. He finished them before they finished him.
Leba le leba yaw leba new!

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Originally posted by: Dawit

"I was reading a "new program" of the so called TPLF dissendent both in amahric and in Tigrigna. I fel very ashamed. Just a statement from the manuscript read as follows "We will fight to estbliash a legal and sustenable sea-port contrat with neighboring countries". They are not still willing to recognize the right of Ethiopia to the red sea. I could not believe I am reading such a statement from the people. I have been thinking that 4 years ismore than enough to rethink on at least their basic mistakes. But even after such a time out of office, they haven't show a slightest change. From their program one can simply conclude they are still the other face of the EPRDF.

Here is my recommandation:"As you have no difference with Meles you better beg Meles to give you a position like your former colleague Abay Tsehaye".

Now I understand I was totally wrong in expecting a positive thing from these people. I was hoping that they will come up with a solution to the burning problems of our country

Betam Yasaznal Sewu Hulu wey wenie alba wey degmo Shaibia hono mekretu
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Haile

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Haile, the program is a proposal.  It is neither final nor binding. 

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Nahum

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Good observation dawit :


Ethiopian politicians have the same taste. In the public they pretend patriots as no one like them. At the backdoors they leave no  stones unturned to use any possible means to climb up and grab  the power saddle. What are the socalled dessidents all about? how can they make a call as they said it to "ALL NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC FORCES"? Who are those democratic forces anyway?


The only thing i can say is  Meles was lucky enough to make them " Lemisa Yasebun Le'kurse aregnachew" type of the dergue era. those people can not be democratic as thier nature was integrated silence of iternal oppositions, suppressing ideas in the name of democratic centralism. Where are the democratic TPLF individuals that opposed the undemocratic handling  of affairs outside and within the Front? Those are the very people that should be hold accountable along with   their friends in power for every mistake of the past. Satan Cant be an appostle by repenting his past mistakes. Why dont they form a coalition with CUD the collection of opportunists and  warmaking of Col. Mengistu's time?.


i feel deeply disheartened with all those politicians when they talk on the names of fellow Ehiopians  though we all know even  could not emancipate themselves. there is no basic demcratic ground in Ethiopia at this time. if there is any change because of the comig election it will only be a shift in the equilibriun of beneficiaries. that's all. the arguments we hear formally and in every walks of life are not based on universal right and wrong of the spirit of democracy.


But based on supporting or opposing of one or the other group. this shows the political sickness of the country. It's a kind of as if the whole population become  cadres of one or the other group. If we all act as  cadres,  we cant stand for truth but for the person whom we think represents our side.


Democracy only prevails on societies with independent thinking.


God Bless Ethiopia


 



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Abe

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I think you guys are too quick to reject,


Give it some time and go through it again. I had similar impression at glance. I had second thought after reading page 7 first paragraph, page 18- 6.4.1,6.4.2, and 6.4.3.


Your concern on page 26-9.3. Could be with Djibouti, Sudan, Kenya and Somalia or international water for that matter. There is no as such legal boundary with Eritrea so article 9.3 page 26 does not apply. Remember they are rejecting the Algeria’s treaty as is.


 



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Ziom

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RE: A new program of the former TPLF disendents!
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Dear Friends,


As to me they should be very glad for themselves when the first day they oppose the treasonious policy openly. Because at least they can benefit some  psychological freedom instead of guiltyness. And the other, offcourse if they mean it or realy they have the willing to struggle for the best of their country they should be given the chance to do so. Because a true son could make mistakes but can never hesitate to compensate what cause his own misdeads.


However, those group has many history to tell the puplic yet. Until this time they have released many information and have corrected themselves on some, but as we all know many there many things which it should be addressed to the puplic first before building a cave to hiden again. Let me mentioned some, cause and true history of their death to many members of TPLF-Starting from Resene,Tekhlu, Hayelom,Berhe down to the lower rank members and down to the time they left the organization. If they don't do so,they can't feel free of guiltiness and cure them selves form what keeps them quiet to be cheated. I remember one of them when he replays to the question of Asseb and said "Teashina ena".


And the other, if realy they want to serve their country honestly, why do they want to formulate again their own party? First of all there are approxmately 40 political organizations  already active in Ethiopia now. Even three of them from Tigray, limiting them selves to that locality. The third one is currently called  New TPDM or TPDM 2 which is based in Asmera, for the same sickness that TPLF has come through. I call it TPDM2 because there is a political organization under the same identification which was founded by Dr. Haile, and the first group in the history of TPLF that was exposing all the misdeads of today before it happen and firmly Against Shaebia. So this is going to be the fourth  or the fifth opposition political party in Tigray for Tigray. That is realy creziness! If they don't want deal with the multi-national political parties, at least they should get the courage for excuse to deal with the national onesany how.


And for that sickness there was a lot of crisism from acadimicians for the three facts here bellow: - To fight tribal politics caused problem is not through it's already way in way out. Because the game of bringing the change is going to be demolished by the already existed rule and out look of the people. Besides to that, although your rivilary is weak and is in luck of mass support you are keeping your self as no optional in principle. For that fact you couldn't count a single calory in exceding from the mass and this is limiting the chance to push or move the one aldeay dead in the chair either through legel election or any other means of harboring power.


Most political parties have similar programme and mandate, if so then what is the cause for and the consequences of it, first it's cause of divsion is very clear and that these days any ordinary fellow of country can easly detect that here individual interest is the deriving force thank you to you people and the group still in power and all what is written there is to be taken as prove ,to be not true. So some one whom I have seen him that he is unethical to his principles during struggle how I or any one else could expect trust on that fellow will do the principles agreed?  And secondly it is divisiable to the existing force and some times even dangerious to it self or to the believed principle to come.


And the last, but not the least: Any one whom had been contrubuting to the dificulities and problems of that country society, instead of at least cleaning his dirty hands first so as not to be repeated again and give honest demonistration of the failers to protect them from happening again, they all rush to hide themselves by formulating their block of power, which is political party or seeking exile in their reserved palace. So is bad sample, which we are used to learn about our country's political culture and phenomen. And for that fact also the problem is end less and is keeping the country rest less to it's neth.


Therefore I rather suggest them try to be good model at least here, to seek open excuse for your people for what you did all, and you try to come close your selve to the already existing opposition parties which you believ is better, contrubute what you could in facilitating the process of kiking out your old time best friend the treasonious PM Legesse and his forgide cabinet at least before adds more damege.


Thank you for reading me.


 



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Nahum

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Dear ZIOM


Logically speaking you are right.  But Opposing Meles's idea and admiting past mistakes do not


show that they really are changing. These are such bold crimes even any democratic thinking will bring hardly a lasting solution to the problems at hand. Let's take the argument of defying the Algiers agreemet. given that they come to power how can it be amended? If as they are telling us the agrement is being  nullified   what would be  the consequences that follow?


 the  natural access  to sea   depnds on the mercy of the Eritreans. what on earth can be done to come out of this row given  the behaviour of those people is that we all know?.


The option could be war again. but  can we really afford war? Let me assure you, Ziom, had those people were on power they would have traverssed the same path  of Meles. we are seeing  the treaties of some 100 years back follow us wherever we go. the same is true with this recent one. One can not say"  no" after signing a treaty that was not  imposed up on him (it was imposed on Eritrea as a result of the defeat in the war front).


So it's simply to show us how heroes they were and need a kind of  sympathy. Here i dont undermine the real HERO SIYE ABRAHA. he remains as  hero wherever he might be. all the others are armchair politicians who failed in leading their respected offices because of their arrogance and "we know all syndrom".


Though it may look absurd to reject just from the outset, i dont see any good from this proposal. "It is the old wine in new bottle". Democrats are yet to be born in Ethiopia.


with love


 



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Ziom

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 Dear Nahum,


In concern to the current problem, about the Algers agreement or the forged legal cover momentium or the recently Legesse's announcement of give and take teater are not an incidental event. They are long time cided objectives which they have been in process to be developed to this stage and if we do not get the gat to lock or to find out the best way out of the problem at soonest possible time also could worsen things there even more than that.


I rememder when they formulated a party in-side TPLF by the name called MLLT, Legesse took not only the upper hand of the power, but also their soul in a miserable way of trick. And since that time I know for my selve they are all dead body with no sense to feel what is happening arround them. Their political agitation and teaching centers were busy 24 hrs a day with EPLF fictional book to convince the legitimency of Ertrean question to the TPLF fighters,members and the puplic of Tigray. And that with the existing limited man power and resource just give it all what we have. If one is not easy with this intensive propaganda or has raised a sensitive question in related to this topic, sure his life will be in danger... and there are many brothers to be remember. Or at least they will be pushed away.


And in all this drama the acters were the todays what we call them TPLF dissdent. With no exception but with exceptional respect to the single laddy Argash. The reason for still having the respect to this lady is not because she is woman, but because of her manner and her devotion of love to her own people.


If time allows we all hope one day we will go to print every pieces of historical event including who was whom and at which time, and why. And for that fact I don't have a special admiration neither to Kinfe nor to Siye better than the others. They all break when their back holds wound. They don't sense political projects at their start, even they don't see a logical reasons and consequences for what they act in a daily basis. That is they were tools and are easly pushed away.


However, I have to agree with your the message for one fact: in the final game Siye reconfirms his seriousness to what he believ. And that is why he has to be locked in prison alone, and prison intimidiation seems is not going to work for the idiots, rather than to keep Siye's fame up and gives birth of extention for his political life. So, he is Hero..... yes quiet better effective and readyness for secrification seems with him than the others whom are sacked to the street.That is for sure because Legesse has not have any fear of their effect to what they can do.


See you soon.


 



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