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BIGERMEGNE

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WHY ARE ALL THE DOCTORS AND ELITES ALWAYS WRITING AGAINST  MELES ZENAWI AND HIS LEADERSHIP.


IS IT A FORMULA FOR ANY PHD HOLDER AND WHO RESIDE ABROAD TO OPPOSE A LEADER OR THERE IS ALWAYS NO SUBSTANCE ABOUT THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT.


I THINK I CAN SHARE SOME EVEN MAY BE SOME MORE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE EDUCTAED PERSONS. BUT WHY IS THAT THIS REPETITIVE PERSONALITIES NOT SEEN WRITING ANY POSITIVE THING ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP. WHAT I MEAN IS TO PRESENT AN EDUCATATED AND RESPONSIBLE REFLECTION OF THE REAL SITUATIONS.


IS THIS GOVERNMENT FAILING IN ALL ENDEAVOURS.


WHY ARE ALSO FORMER MEMBRS OF TPLF/EPRDF COMMENTING THE NEGATIVES. WHY ARE NOT TRYING TO PRESENT US ANY OF THE POSITIVES. I MEAN IT COULD BE ONE THING. LETS SAY THE GOVERNMENT FAILED 99% WHAT ABOUT THE 1% WHY NOT THEY SHOW US. I AM ASKING THIS SINCERILY BECAUSE I HAVE A REAL HARD TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN ETHIOPIA. I DO NOT WANT ALSO RELY ON THE GOVERNMENTS INFORMATION.


SO IF THERE IS ANY ONE SINCERE AND WHO HAVE DETAILED OBSERVATION CAN FORWARD AND SHARE ME HIS IDEAS.


 


THANK YOU SO MUCH


 



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Gemetchu

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I do not know where you are living at the moment. If you are living in ethiopia, the situation in the country will answer your question. It is very visible that TPLF has failed in bringing about economic and social progress despite billions in aid and loans from abroad. The chronic poverty and desperation one witnesses even in the capital tells the truth about the TPLF government.

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BIGERMEGNE

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MY WHOLE POINT IS NOT TO ARGUE THERE IS AFAILURE AND TO SAY NO. OR VICE VERSA. MY QUESTION IS HOWEVER COULD EVEN ANY BLIND LEADER FAILURE 100%. AND WHY IS GETTING LOAN BECONSIDERED AS FAILURE. WHAT ARE OTHER POLICY FAILRES. CANNOT ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE ENDEAVOUR ON THOSE LIMITED POLICIES AND MAKE THINGS BETTER.


AND WHAT ARE THE MAJOR THREATENING FAILURES. AND IT IS ALSO NATURAL THERE COULD BE SOME OK GO A HEAD POLICIES.


 


THANKS



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TAZABI

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Failures of the EPRDF government:

1) Land locking Ethiopia
2) Controlling the economy by its party affiliated companies
3) Shutting out the private sector from investing on Agriculture due to wrong land policy (creating artificial food shortages in the country)
4) Promoting ethnic based politics thereby hampering the free flow of capital and labor to various regions


Success of the EPRDF government:

1) Installing Free Press
2) Allowing Multi-party politics


I hope this is a fair balance sheet for the government. Could this possibly answer your question?


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BIGERMEGNE

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Thank you Tazabi for trying and edeavouring to make me understand the "fair and Balance" points. However, My question is not just towards you who may be look in capacity a bit better than me. My opinion is to those who know and who are supposed to be very responsible.


I may or may not argue with you but that is not the whole message. I was looking for best a detailed justification and study documents from peoples like Tekola Hagos, Dr This and that, Deki Alula, and affiliated web sites. And Walta is also extra biased to goverrment. But those who have an academic and historical responsibilty should do some thing. Because as a people we cannot live by externalising and blaming others only.


Me I do not have any problem when they write all the Negatives about the government. They can keep writing. But should not they make it a balanced and even new negative failures.


Because I have been hearing the last 13 years Mele vs Eritrea. Meles and EPRDF who are examples of failure. So I som how got frustrated because even our Eductaed people are not better than me.


So my call is for detailed new failures, bad qualities and good things.


 


Thank you


 



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Ziom

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 Now we know even where you are and for what intention you raised the question. Aren't  you  the one among the new recuireted cadres to replace the old once,with a new sytle and mode.

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ABEBE

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the reason is clear my friend. POWER. EVERY ONE YOU SEE IN ETHIOPIAN POLITICS THEY ARE GREEDY FOR POWER. LOOK AT THE SO CALLED DISSENTS OF TPLF, DURING GOOD DAYS THEY WERE THE MOST NARROW MINDED TIGREE LOYALIST, WAR MONGORES, HATERS OF OTHER TRIBES IN THE NATION, BUT NOW THEY ARE KICKED OUT FROM THEIR JOB THEY ACTING LIKE REAL ETHIOPIANS AND ACT LIKE THEY CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE.


TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH MELES IS THE ONLY ETHIOPIAN FROM ALL TPLF MEMBERS, THE OTHERS ARE TIGREE LIBERATION MINDED IDIOTS WHICH ARE WORTH NOTHING TO ETHIOPIA.


I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. AGAIN THE REASON IS POWER THIRSTY. PERIOD.


ABE, WITH LOVE.



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Kim

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Abebe, is that you Meles?

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BIGERMEGNE

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HELLO ATO ZIOM. YOU LOOK IDIOT BECUASE YOU CONCLUDE BEFORE YOU KNOW ME. I HATE TO SUPPORT ANY ONE EXCEPT LOOK FOR GOOD REASON. SO PLEASE BACK OFF AND DO NOT CONCLUDE. IF YOU HAVE ANTHING TO SAY POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE YOU GOT THE FORUM. BUT YOU CANNOT JUDGE ME FROM NO WHERE.


SO IT IS STUPID TO SAY A RECRUIT TO SOME WHOM YOU DO NOT KNOW AND SOMETHING YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY. EVERY ONER HAS GOT TO ASK ANY QUESTION. IT IS UP TO YOU TO MKE YOUR POINTS BUT ANNOT MAKE A JUDJEMENT ON MY INTENTIONS.



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Ziom

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Hei BIGERMEGNE,


I hate to denay anybody's right or to those whom they enjoy such calamity. And  I am sorry, if you feel so. But remember the right for expression of truth and in search of truth are inseparable, regardless their accurecy. And here I was just expressing what you look like or your statments could give.


Where as in concern to the other whity insultations from you; I knew they don't belong to me and as far as Legesse is there, it is difficult to give you cultural lessen. So can bark.



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BIGERMEGN

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HEY DO YOU FORGOT YOU CALLED ME A RECRUIT. AND I AM NOT AND I CONSIDER THAT AS AN INSULT TO ME.


SO I AM NOT BARKING BUT TELLING YOU TO KEEP YOUR TANGUES.


TRHANK YOU



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Ziom

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Why should I? Just because in fear of the barking?


 



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bigermegne

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ziom,


You need to take sleeping pill. Garb.



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Ziom

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 Dear Bigermingne,


Have you taken that for your self ?



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BIGERMEGNE

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I think you are a person who came from ZEFEN TERA or SDEIB TERA. Do you know that in ADDIS.

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Dagnaw

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After reading the pedigree from the beginning, I found out that Ziom is SID (or SEDI in Tigrigna) for polluting the discussion with poison. Ziom you can call me another recruit.


BIGERMEGN has asked just a real question, to which many people are ignorants. I appreciate one for answering it.


Selam


 



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GOBENA

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DEAR MR MELES,


I THINK THE QUESTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN, WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE ME?


THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE, AND I THANK YOU HAVE STOPPED USING "PEOPLES" , HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR A LONG LONG TIME. ESPECIALLY WHAT WE WENT THRU UNDER THE DERGUE WAS RARELY SEEN IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD. JUST TO MENTION A FEW THINGS, I HAD A FATHER, TWO UNCLES, A SISTER, AND TWO COUSINS KILLED IN DIFFERENT TIMES. ALL WE HAD WAS STOLEN. ALL MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY WERE IMPRISONED ONE TIME OR ANOTHER INCLUDING MY MOTHER. I WAS THROWN IN JAIL WHEN I WAS FIFTEEN, ACTUALLY I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE KILLED, AT ONE POINT THEY TOLD ME TO OPEN MY MOUTH AND SHOVED A GUN IN THERE, BUT THEY DIDNT PULL THE TRIGGER. TIL THIS DAY I DONT KNOW WHY. WE WERE EXILED ALL OVER THE WORLD TO LIVE AMONG STRANGE PEOPLE AND CULTURES. ALL SAID AND DONE THE ONLY THING WE ALL WANTED WAS THAT MONSTROUS REGIME TO FALL. AND THEN 1991 CAME WE SAW HOW THE WESTERN POWERS WITH THEIR OWN AGENDA AND HISTORICAL HATRED FOR OUR COUNTRY PROPELLED YOU INTO POWER, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM WERE THE THINGS YOU IMPLEMENTED AFTERWARDS. THE SINGLE MOST WRONG THING I BELIEVE, THE RUSH TO FACILITATE THE SECCESSION OF ERITREA, WITHOUT THE ADVICE AND WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF ETHIOPIANS. WE RETURNED BACK ON IT IN 1998, WITH A MAJOR WAR, AND I DO BELIEVE AS LONG AS THE HUMILIATION OF 1991 IS REPAID OR ETHIOPIA GETS BACK ONE OF THE PORTS, WE WILL RETURN ON IT WITH A WAR FAR WORSE THAN 1998.


THE SECOND WORST PROBLEM IS THIS ETHNIC DIVISION OF ETHIOPIA. WE WERE TOLD MANY TIMES IT WAS THE PROGRAM OF THE RULING PARTY EPDRF, AND WE SHOULD ACCEPT IT. BUT DO YOU THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL STAY IDLE AND WATCH IF SAY MR BUSH, THE GOVERNING PARTY, TOMMORROW WITH A STROKE OF A PEN WIPE OUT THE PRESENT 50 STATES AND DIVIDE THE US INTO BLACK, ANGLO SAXON, YEHUDI, HISPANIA, ETC ETC STATES. LIKE NO OTHER KIND OF PEOPLE LIVE THERE. YOU REALLY THINK, TIGRAY AND ERITREA KEEP THEIR NAME AND THE HOME OF IYASU ADIAM SEGED GONDAR, GAKKI SERROCHO KEFFA, AND SAHLE SELLASIE SHOA, WILL JUST DISAPPEAR OFF THE MAP FOREVER. BE REAL, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT IT IS USEFUL. YOU ALSO CALLED IT AN EXPERIMENT ONCE. MY HUMBLE ADVICE FOR YOU NOW, DECLARE THIS THORN ON THE SIDE OF THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE A FAILED EXPERIMENT, BRING BACK THE THIRTEEN PROVINCES. YOU WILL SEE THIS ALONE WILL CUT DOWN BY HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO HATE YOU.ALSO SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL, THE BOUNDARY OF GOJJAM AND GONDAR ABAY, OF GONDAR AND TIGRAY IS TEKEZZE. DONT KEEP A DEEP FELT HATRED FOR GENERATION OF TIGREANS BY GONDARES OR OTHER ETHIOPIANS, HOW COULD YOU ACCUSE ERITREA OF TAKING TIGREAN LAND WHEN YOU HAVE TAKEN SO MUCH FROM DEFENSELESS GONDAR.


I HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY, THIS IS JUST ONE POINT, I WILL SEE YOUR REACTION FIRST


THANK YOU SIR



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BIGERMEGNE

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I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY? HOW TO PUT MY QUESTION AGAIN. OK FOR EXAMPLE I USED TO READ WALTA INFORMATION CENTER AND SUPPORTERS OF MELES CADRES TALKING ALL POSITIVE ABOUT HIM. WHICH I WAS TIRED OF READING WALTA LISTENING ETHIOPIAN NEWS AGENCY.


ON THE CONTRARY I USED TO HEAR AND READ OPPOSITION GROUPS FORUMS AND WHAT EVER. WHICH ALWAYS BLAMES ON SOME ISSUES. I WOULD SAY THOSE WERE ADEQUTELY ADDRESSED. BUT NOW AND THEN SAME ISSUES ARE TOLD. NO POSITIVE. AND LETS FOR THIS DISCUSSION ACCEPT THE TO SAY NEGATIVES.


MY QUESTION IS THEREFORE WHY ARE OUR EDUCATED PEOPLE NOT TRYING AND SHOWING US VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES WHICH CAN HELP US UPRISE AND DEVASTATE THE ENEMY ALL WE HATE. OR ARE YOU TELLING ME OUR SCHOLARS ARE SAYING ENOUGH. IS THAT ALL OUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT. IF THAT IS TRUE I WILL HAVE A [PROBLEMUNDERSTAND THE REAL PROBLEMS IN ETHIOPIA WHICH ARE CAUSED BY THE RULING GROUP. OR IS IT THEIR KNOWLEDGE IS LIMITED ABOUT ETHIOPIA.


SO THIS IS MY CALL AGAIN?


 



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Fessehaye

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Meles as a leader of EPRDF and PM of Ethiopia has been doing countless positive contributions to the Ethiopian society.


1) Free press: the right to express your views and ideas: Remember people were killed in previous era simply because they listend to other opposition party radios


2) Political organization: The freedom to be part of or form a political party. Remember people were killed during previous regims simply because they were walking in group of two or five.


3) Use your own language: Remember people were ashmed of to speak their own language during the Amaharization era. Even they were changing their names to make it more amhara.


4) Self administration: You previously the people were forced to be managed by some one who doesn't understand their language, culture, and even religion for most of the governors were the amharas. So the peope were forced to communicate in different language regardless of their fluency.


5) Ethinc equality: You know during the era of amharization only the amhara were at the top of list ethinicity. Every one must be an amhara to assume good government or public office. The others were treated as sub-human. One example by Menilik : "sew atgedel galam bihon" Don't kill a man even if they are galas. This shows in the eyes of Menilik, or for that matter in the eyes of the amharas the galas were not human being.


6) Good attention to education: You know Ethiopias Universities have doubled during Meles's era


7) Shrewd diplomacy: Thanks to his wise and intelligent skills Ethiopia is enjoying excellent foreign relations, with almost any nation of the Globe save our little country. As a result Ethiopia is enjoying massive debt cancellation and billions of aids



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BIGERMEGNE

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ATO FISSEHAYE TOO. THAT IS NOT M PROBLEM I READ AND LISTEN EQUALLY AS YOU ARE, SO I CAN FIND IT WALTA.


IT WAS A BLESSING HOWEVER TO HEAR FROM HIS EXCELLENCY AND THE STEREO TYPE FOLLOWERS. AT LEAST TO SAY WE HAD DONE THIS MISTAKE. IF IT WAS MUCH BLESSING WE COULD HAVE HEARD A FIRM VISIONS SHOWING ETHIOPA AND ETHIOPIANS HOW IT WILL LOOK LIKE 20, 30 ...FROM NOW. THAT IS LEADERSHIP AND PEOPLE REPRESENTATION MEANS.


IT IS NOT SOME THING YOU SAY IT TO DAY YOU DROPPED IT AND SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IF YOU REAALY NOTICED MELES AND HIS LEADERSHIP HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL THINGS IN THE WORLD BUT I HAD A HRAD TIME WHAT HIS REAL PROGRAMS ARE, HOW THEY ARE MEASURED. I NEVERED HEAR HIM AND HIS CLOSEST ADVOCATES ADMITTING THEIR MISTAKES.


SO FISSEHAYE YOU WILL NOT HELP MELES EITHER ETHIOPIANS BY SAYING THOSE WHICH HAVE BEEN TOLD.



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Ziom

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Dear participants,


Look here the whole is bigger than the wear which could/ should cover. Which means, a visible fact to any ordinary citizen and that also with a serious negative impact on his daily life. Besides to that, the are repeated records in the history of this gov't such of the unstable stand, open cheap and cheating propaganda to the public such as what they did about the Hege decision and the like. Therefor then forget about the intellectuals, whom they are doing what they should contribute and they think is better for their country. They disevre at least  admiration, not a degrading statements as you people put it up " Our educated people are always ..., or is it doctoral tesis Meles ...".  This time around no single Ethiopian citizen is expected to stay in dilema. And  what could be said to you people whom could communicate through such means of media and capabile to lesson to other world news? 


I leave it to you to answer the question:


And with that, hope also you will come back with other current or interesting issues.


Yours



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Atnafseged

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Fessehaye,


All I d like to say to you is, keep on lying Hammasien. There will be pay back time. And as for Atse Menelik, talking about him now has no meaning, you should have done something about it then.


Afe ekule gulbet senkul. Mekegna Banda.



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ABEBE

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KIM


YOU MUST BE A WITCH. LOL


ABE.



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Melake

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Originally posted by: Ziom
"Dear participants,


Look here the hole is bigger than the wear which could/ should cover. Which means, a visible fact to any ordinary citizen and that also with a serious negative impact on his daily life. Besides to that, the are repeated records in the history of this gov't such of the unstable stand, open cheap and cheating propaganda to the public such as what they did about the Hege decision and the like. Therefor then forget about the intellectuals, whom they are doing what they should contribute and they think is better for their country. They disevre at least  admiration, not a degrading statements as you people put it up " Our educated people are always ..., or is it doctoral tesis Meles ...".  This time around no single Ethiopian citizen is expected to stay in dilema. And  what could be said to you people whom could communicate through such means of media and capabile to lesson to other world news?


I leave it to you to answer the question:


And with that, hope also you will come back with other current or interesting issues. Yours"



Do you mean realy also that there are Ethiopians whom they don't know about the Ethio-Eritean war and the loss of thousands brev citzens of life in the war?

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Abebech

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ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, andande sewoch ye Tigray sew cancer new yemilu alu, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ehadeg cancer new malete yechalal, ehhhhhhhhhhhhh, Legesse cancer new malete yechalal, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh andin hizbi gen ende hizbi................................then it was Dr Telahun Yelma.........now it is doctor this and that Tecola Hagos........why so much hatred for the educated?


the TPLF dissidents, like you said even then they were more Tigres than anyone else, but they were never Eritreans. As for their current stand all one has to do is read what they right. All i see the majority of Ethiopians agree with. Plus anyone could repent and change their ways, including you. As a leader of a great country I suggest that is more respectable than throwing insults in here.


Amesegenalehu



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WeDiTigray

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You BIGERMEGNE ... to answer your question just do some mental exercise ... I mean real ones ... like counting and stuff and you will get an insight of what you are wondering ... otherwise you will have to hold a PHD yourself to find out ... it's more like this ... I guess if you are really dump ... all dumper people seem smart to you ....  ah how do I say it ... you can only see the people below you ... I Meles must remind some of the doctors of their level when they were in high school ... so they have a guage to measure him against ... but I have to say some of the doctors also measure him with their biolotechnology metrics and etc ... so in that case some of them have only the PHD and not necessarily the other substances ... you know like meles have some mastrates and I think honourable doctorate ... so they know what they are talkin I guess .... similar levels .......

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BIGERMEGNE

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FIRST AND FOR MOST. I DO NOT THINK YOUR ARE TIGRAWAY. NUMBER TWO I DID NOT SAY I AM AN ELITE. NUMBER THREE I SAID WHY ARE ON BOTH SIDE NOT BRINGING ISSUES WITH SUBSTANCE? THAT MEANS RULING PARTY ALWAYS DANCE ON I DID THIS I DID THAT. THE OPPOSITION GROUP INCLUDING OUR PHD ( PHILOSOPHICAL DOCTORS) ( DOCTORS OF PHILISOPHY MEANS THEY ARE SCIENTIST BUT DEBATE ON ELEMENTARY ISSUES.


SO YOUR COMMENTS HAVE SHOWN ME AT WHAT LEVEL AND SCOPE YOU ARE THINKING. AND ACCORDING YOUR COMMENT I HAVE STARTED TO LEARN COUNTING. BY THEWAY MY NAME IS DIFFERENT BUT  GERMOGNE NAMED MYSELF BIGERMEGNE.


KEEP ON WRITING



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WeDiTigray

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lol ... BIGERMEGNE ... sorry man didn't mean to offend you man ... or woman ... I am just scribbling here bewtween works ... ok ... I didnt actually read what you wrote except the first paragraph ... so I won't comment much ...seriously I didn't mean you would take it literally ... lol if you can write this you can count I guess ... take my response as a reaction rather than response ... I am a reactor... lol you can believe im a tigraway now I hope ... ok I'll stop now ...

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BIGERMEGNE

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IS THIS LOL YOU PICKED IT FROM PUBLIC. TO LOOK GOOD ENGLISH SPEAKER. LOUGH TA LOUD AND LOUD AND THEN SCREAM.


 


HAVE A NICE NIGHT



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BIGEREMEGNE

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There is a psychological expresion called. Grandios behaviour. Or Self Agrandisement. People as people have been seen agrandising themselves. They have in a union a grandios behaviour. Thse people are Eritreans. Especially Hamassien. They Agrandise themselves because they are psychologically sick.


And on the other hand Ethiopians have a sickness of inferiority and rejection. And feel sick Eritreans hate them. So I am Tigraway, Ethiopian. I understand Eritreans are sick. Because of Self Agrandisement. And Ethiopians are sick too because they feel inferior and cannot forget Sick Eritreans.


Thank you



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